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  If a JW becomes inactive is he then labeled as an apostate?

  by Pallbearer in

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  i have heard a rumor that if a jw becomes inactive he or she is considered to be an apostate.

  is this true?

  has anyone here on this forum had such an experience?

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  Anna Marina

  Inactivity is fine providing you are in good standing. Even if you can't be bothered to put in a report the elders will make one up for you and not tell you they have done so.

  You might say to an elder, "I have done nothing this month." Then they will say, "but you must have done something you can count time for, even if you can't remember." Then they'll help you to remember.
  

  However if start questioning Watchtower doctrine and quoting scriptures straight from the Bible - that's it. You are suspicious. Just like if you say the name Jesus a bit too often, you might be an apostate.
  
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  TODAY is my 51st ANNIVERSARY of going to prison. I was 20 years old.

  by Terry in

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  today is my 51st anniversary.

  of going to prison.. i was 20 years old.

  i stood before district judge leo brewster and made a plea of "guilty".

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  Anna Marina

  Terry - thank you from me too for posting this very interesting information.
  
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  Idolatry and usage of JW.ORG logo

  by KSFernando in

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  2. beliefs

  can anyone give difference between cross and pendant with jw.org logo?.

  further this logo has become the main identification of a kingdom hall.. can someone give bible reasoning behind this?

  against or favour..

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  Anna Marina

  The CO's wife turns up wearing those earings and sets a trend? Hmm no. I can't even imagine a CO's wife wearing those earings. Maybe they'll get worn by one of the shadow characters on a demo video.
  

  I think they'd love the pens though. Brolly, yes. Mouse mat - yes. Face mask - not sure. Might be ideal for a Zoom talk - sis appears wearing JW facemask and pretends to witness to someone working in a shop.
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  Anna Marina

  You feel free to be pedantic Slimboy. I stand educated and enlightened on the subtlties of spelling.

  I can be pedantic too - I insisted to the GB that the number 3 really, really was the number 3. I got thrown out for that.

  I also had an issue with the number 2 - if you put a 0 after it, like this 20, it changes the value by 18.
  
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  Idolatry and usage of JW.ORG logo

  by KSFernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone give difference between cross and pendant with jw.org logo?.

  further this logo has become the main identification of a kingdom hall.. can someone give bible reasoning behind this?

  against or favour..

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  Anna Marina

  Would you get df'd for using their logo as a tattoo? Please, no one do this.

  Oh I supposed you'd be marked! :D
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  Idolatry and usage of JW.ORG logo

  by KSFernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone give difference between cross and pendant with jw.org logo?.

  further this logo has become the main identification of a kingdom hall.. can someone give bible reasoning behind this?

  against or favour..

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  Anna Marina

  A guess - being allowed the right to sell these goods with the logo on enables well behaved ex-Bethelites or similar to make a living perhaps?

  Oh wow - earrings.
  
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  Anna Marina

  When you depart Scotland to go to Venice, make sure you pick up a few bottles of whiskey.
  
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  Anna Marina

  Because there are several ways of getting to Venice on the Orient Express. So, say you go by the route of being a pioneer or an elder, missionary, Bethel worker, Governing Body member or whatever - you are prominent. Therefore, you get to Venice being prominent.
  

  But not everyone can do these things. If you cannot do these things, you have to get to Venice by a different route. You'll get there ok but you'll have to clean the toilets. That's the other route, the toilet cleaning route. If you don't get to clean the toilets, don't worry there's plenty of other non-prominent tasks that'll get you to Venice.

  They put a map up showing the two different routes.
  
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  Anna Marina

  Yes they are guilty. The final talk I went to was about how being in the 'truth' (cough, splutter) is like being on the Orient Express.

  But, in Agatha Christie's book, The Orient Express, all on board were murderers.

  Guilt by association. If you are in it you are supporting it. My suggestion - get off at the next stop.
  
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  Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.

  even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?

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  Anna Marina

  One who used to be in an Italian congregation told me about a sister who's husband was very cruel to her. He was being groomed to be an elder. So the other elders protected him.
  

  The sister turned to the elders for support but they gaslighted her - effectively telling her she was imagining it all, she was not perceiving things correctly.
  

  She was not allowed to talk about it. But the one from Italy told me that her eyes kept looking at him pleading, yearing and in earnest as if saying 'these people are mad.'

  He did not know how to help her. He was still new to it all, and did not stay for very long. But he recognized that look. He knew something was seriously wrong.
  

  To this day the memory of her eyes remain with him. She killed herself.